The following is a compilation of emails that were exchanged
with a visitor to the bloodbot.com site from July 21, 2003 through August 2,
notion of a god is false...god was made in man's image...sheep follow...that is
why a church congregation is called a flock...those who can not think for
themselves need to follow...please people, think for yourselves.
is a pretty bold statement and one that I used to make myself. What is your
fact is you can not prove what doesn't exist. You must prove what DOES exist. So
what proof do you have?
so, it is as much a matter of faith for you as it is for me.
you would like a little food for thought, do a little research on left handed
and right handed proteins and ask yourself why all proteins in the human body
are left handed but ANY process known to science only produces a mixture of
right and left handed proteins. Now if you are a mathematician, what is the
probability of creating a tremendously complex organism from these very
complex molecules from a pool of randomly mixed chemicals. There is lots of
valid evidence to consider on the creation side of the ledger if you are
willing to research it. But the fact is that there are NO human eye witnesses
to the origin of the planet or life here. If you are a scientist and have
evidence please produce it. If you are relying on what you have been taught or
your natural instincts, I suggest that you delve a little deeper than that.
have a question for you. Where did god come from?
Also, in my opinion, the theory of a god is just an easy way to explain the
unexplainable. And the word "faith" is a cop-out. All that it means is
that there is NO explaination. It puts the burden on the other person when you
tell them to have faith. It makes them feel guilty and evil when they don't have
it, and that's exactly the way that organized religion operates.
I could go on and on about Christians, Jews, Muslims and the like spend millions
upon millions of dollars on churches and shrines to their "faith"
while millions upon millions of people are starving and full of diseases that
MUST have been put here by god, but I won't.
What is the big secret? Why doesn't this god simply make itself be seen and make
all well in the world?
I know about you is from your Where's George profile. I am assuming that what
started your email thread was that you visited my web site and clicked on a
link that took you to the "What is bloodbot page" If this is not so
or if you did not read the entire page then I would ask that you do that.
Since you know a fair amount about me I would ask that you tell me a little
bit about yourself. I am assuming that our conversation may go on for some
time so a little background may help.
chose not to address any portion of my last email so I am trusting that you
are doing some research.
your previous email You
asked, "Where did god come from?"
I am quite sure that I do
not know, nor is it important to me, as far as I know he has always been. That
makes no sense to my natural mind but it is what I believe. My belief is based
upon several scriptures.
You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
11 They will perish, but You remain;
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him,
and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the
life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the
darkness did not comprehend it.
to your second assertion, Your opinion is of no consequence in this discussion
just as mine is not.
to your last statement, there are several important issues here.
Jesus had a lot to say (all negative as far as I can remember) about
"religious" folk. I think this says it best and speaks to you
original complaint about "followers"
Beware of the scribes, who desire to walk in long robes, love greetings in the
marketplaces, the best seats in the synagogues, and the best places at feasts,
who devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. These will
receive greater condemnation."
apostle Peter said
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be
false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies,
even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift
destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of
whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit
you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle,
and their destruction does not slumber.
will make no defense for organized religion, most of it is apostate and many
"leaders" have no knowledge of Christ or his redemptive work.
you err when you say that "diseases MUST have been put here by god"
though your sarcasm is not lost on me. The simple answer for the source of
disease and death is sin. Sin is the transgression of God's law, it can be
intentional or unintentional, it can be an act of commission or omission it
can be willful defiance (refusing to aim at the target) or simply aiming at
the target and missing. But the result of all sin is the same, it brings
judgement from God.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ
Jesus our Lord.
is universal, no one is perfect.
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
this is a huge topic that volumes have been written to address. We can pursue
it further if you like. But suffice it to say that all sin results in God's
judgement and punishment.
for the final point. There is no secret. God has revealed himself
If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you
know Him and have seen Him." 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us
the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have
I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has
seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Do
you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that
I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells
in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in
Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves
You said - and make all well
in the world?
In a sense, He
has, because when Jesus died on Calvary's cross he paid the penalty for the
sin of the world.
Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in
condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to
all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man's
disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will
be made righteous.
even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him
should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He
gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but
have everlasting life.
that is enough for you to ponder, and I am sure you will have more
questions. If so fire away and we can continue the discussion. Actually, I
hope that you will spend some time reading for yourself, I recommend the
gospel of John and the book of Romans for starters.
with all due respect, you are dealing with a devout athiest...when i ask
questions about your god or make comments, i am merely stating my personal
opinion, not trying to be a wiseguy...as i see christians and believers of other
denominations let their beliefs be known, so will i...i feel that since i am in
the vast minority on this matter, i need to speak up and be heard, even if it is
only 1 person hearing me...and as for the scriptures that you sent, i'm sorry
but i won't be reading them...for one, i have read the bible on more than one
occasion ( i grew up going to catholic school and studied at a methodist
college) and for two, the bible was written by men, no better than either of us
two...when god decides to make itself known, i will be a believer...but not one
please feel free to email me at any time...i will try to respond asap.
I am glad to see you address me as friend, for that means that we can have a
continuing dialogue. I have no doubt as to the fervor with which you hold your
faith in no god. As to whether you read the scriptures or not, I find it
interesting but it is of no importance to me one way or the other. I am under
no obligation to convince you for it is the Holy Spirit that was sent to
convict of sin. If you are right then it doesn't make a bit of difference, if
I am right (and I am :-) ) then you are the one who has been
presented the gospel and chosen to ignore it. You get to defend yourself
before God. I am nothing more than a seed planter. What happens from here is
out of my hands.
me know if you ever want to converse or talk at some point. I will not bother
you but will be happy to hear from you in the future.
does the name BLOODBOT come from?
to hear from you, thought you gave up on me.
Bible says that we are redeemed (bought) from sin at a great price, the blood
of Christ, therefore bloodbought which I shortened to bloodbot.
For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your
spirit, which are God's.
- very clever...for a believer...lol...just joking.
have a glorious day
take care, hope to talk with you again one of these days